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i just discovered myspace lets you change your username and shit now!
so don't delete the returners account if you have it friended... i'll just rename it to whatever whenever. now i don't have to redo all those added fuckin' friends...

also, for some reason before, myspace.com/dadspooves didn't work. now it does!

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i started the returners project in 1998. multiple other people (in the past two or three years specifically) have started attempting to use the name 'the returners' to some extent. over the past month it became clear that my repeated failures in getting anything off the ground have screwed me terminally... basically there's no way i can get the name back from any of these people. which is pretty funny cos i've sort of been fearing this / having panic attacks about this / losing sleep over this for about 2 years. so fuck it. i'm walking away, i don't give a shit, etc. i still have the songs i've written, i just get to start everything else from scratch. frankly this means having a severe identity crisis and a whole lot less hope. but i'm going to do what i've done for a quarter of a century now, and keep faking everything. so someday (doubtful!) if i don't die (pretty likely!) you might hear from me (or not!). so whatever.

in the meantime, i'm going to redo brianshoop.com so it's actually a website like it's supposed to be instead of some lame placeholder thing.

the label is still functioning and will become a full-fledged thing soon:www.feralchildrecords.com
however due to some weirdness the boards are down.

tim is still busy and can be reached at myspace.com/mistercqnzr as usual.

keep an eye out for raymond's side project soon. i shall not mention it's name this far in advance for fear of it being stolen by some california rockabilly band or perhaps by some eastern european 'rappers'. (bitter much?)

IF YOU ADDED THE RETURNERS JOURNAL TO YR LIVEJOURNAL FRIENDS LIST, keep it on for the time being as i may simply rename it and keep using it. i'll let you know.

if anyone knows any last ditch legal shit i can do for free to immolate whoever tried to horn in on my joy, lemme know. also, anyone interested in a domain name? it cost me $200, hah...

it's funny, meant for this to be an 'onward and upward' sort of message but it seemed a hell of a lot more hilarious to tell the truth instead.


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as i said, work is still 'demos first, showoffiness second'. for AAAGES i couldn't quite figure out what i wanted to do with the chorus of deepest sleep but by the end of project runway tonight i had it naaaaailed.

ivy sounds better now, sunstar's demo is complete but i'm not sold on the bridge, i retracked vocals on the autumn song demo so now it's totally tits, and the rewrite of saguaro is stumping me. there are only maybe 8 or so lines to fix but i need to get it right... it's an important song. also, faith in me will be completely overhauled. the '02 version isn't cutting it. needs to be more of a freakout. polishing the last 3 tracks of the LP is still the hardest part. everything else i didn't mention is pretty much written, which rules.

recent listening: bought dave gahan's 'hourglass'...... the first two tracks and 'a little lie' are great, but the rest may take some getting used to. also trying to get back into the beatles, but that's cos i reread lewinsohn's [sp?] recording sessions book more than anything. usual diet of manics/placebo/qotsa too, you know how it is.

apologies to anyone who's been waiting, i'm basically too busy making sure the wait's worth it. i envy the clueless people yet to be blown away though... they never had to suffer through the waiting, hah... i'll make it up to you...


PS: annihilated still sucks. don't know what to do there yet. it will take more cooks.

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-recording is going at a snail's pace. AS I MAY HAVE STATED REPEATEDLY, i'm interested in having the majority of the FINAL LP DEMOS done before i get the EP out so we can IMMEDIATELY hammer the LP after the EP's out.

-annihilated will be done MAYBE by the end of the month... baby steps. this is major shit i need to get right from the start, etc etc etc.

I AM SO SO SO SORRY i don't update as much as i should.
life is hard. you probably know this.
we all know that there is a point in the future where everything will come flooding out.
this flood will never end.
then we'll wonder how we ever survived without quiet moments like these.
but you know and i know that these quiet moments suck, right? :>

all the love in the world,

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i'm no good at maintaining this internet crap.
i can tell you that for once there aren't necessarily a million excuses to why there's no EP yet, etc etc...
what it comes down to is it's taken me this long that it absolutely has to be perfect. does axl have me beat? nah, not at all.

i HAVE however been thinking that i've been thinking the right way. it's not me that's important, it's the music. it sort of feels like it's welling up and ready to crush me. i think i said something along the lines of 'i'm willing to let the music kill me' or something a little while ago and i totally am. i'm teaching myself the hard way how to let it humble me and i hope i've finally let it win. some of it's tough... the EP seems to be a tougher nut to crack than i thought and now the LP seems to be the easier stuff to relate to. that's very good though cos i meant for the LP to be more autobiographical.

i'm gonna shut up now. tonight's agenda is working on some squalls of something for 'cold noise', and developing the riffage for 'deepest sleep'. it has riffage now!

there are so many people i don't want to let down. if you're reading this right this second, you're at the top of the list.


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a new arrangement for several old friends has popped up and it's terrifying. i have no clue which direction i'm supposed to go in with this. i must work in dualities in multiple instances and seek answers from others. maybe there really is only two of me, not three. maybe there's no Inbetween without The Two being set in stone. argh.

on the upside, i guess i've no shortage of ideas, eh?

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i'm standing here in a desert making this entry. sky is more of a powder blue than anything, ground is closer to pale than gold (ground means sand by the way... it's weird thinking of sand as 'ground'...) and i'm also pretty sure my fingertips are on fire. good thing i never left the living room.

may have figured out the class system... subdivsion within the group... keep in mind i'm trying to predict the future in a severe way...

II: anyway, this book i'm reading is ridiculous... it's making me think i've read it before when i haven't... doing things supernatural and isolated to books... as if 'books' can't be somewhat redefined... remind me to write it first.

everything here is downright contradictory. schizoferal, even.

oh hell i just shocked myself (not electrically).

~brian shoop, returner.
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so a while ago i posted that list of every demo ever... there's been more since then, and i'd post the updated list buuuuuut now there are demos for the second album on there... ;D

anyway, i stumbled across a bunch of stuff that was missing from the master vault of demos:
the numbers are the dates they were either recorded to moved to hard disk from the fourtrack in yyyymmdd form.

Ivy 20021031
Ivy 20021231
Ivy 20030121 Vox
P.L.E. 200210
P.L.E. 200211
Bitter Wind 200210
Annihilated 20050625 Vox
Time Away 200210 1
Time Away 200210 2
Time Away 20021215
M 20021113
Marietta Fireworks 20021215
Movies Of Dead People Feb 2005 Chorus Seed
Movies Of Dead People Feb 2005 Prechorus Seed
Dead Men Tell No Tales Mar 2005 Pittsburgh Seed
Dead Men Tell No Tales Spring 2005 Original Demo

pretty cool... tomorrow night i'm giving shandias what's basically a skeletal cd consisting of the EP and LP back to back in demo form, and thursday we'll spend all day recording at his apartment. i'm hoping most of all that we can K.O. the EP version of saguaro, and get some work done on MODP and monica, wait.

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a vast majority of work is to be completed this week. calls to be made, distances to be driven, things to be carried.

a seed for a new song has popped into my head as of late, but i don't know what to make of it. first it felt like it could be a bonus addition to the EP, then i thought it'd be suitable for the second episode... now it looks like it could be busted apart to fill the holes in one of the weaker LP tracks. by the end of the week i think i'll know.

some other old stuff popped up again too... something meant for the original version of 'a word of warning' (back when it was still either going to be 'the sunstar EP' or 'dirty bomb') might resurface, and another little treat made in the midst of some afternoon darkness looks like it'll find a completely different place to belong altogether. good thing i just typed this last paragraph out as i don't know if i'd remember it otherwise, there's too much going on.